Posts by Anna Marina

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Quit Quietly now more than ever

by gone for good in

the amazing exoneration of info sekta in swiss court has finally reinforced the proper way to exit an abusive cult.. never write a letter of disassociation.

- no need to invoke shepherding or judicial action from elders.

make a written, dated statement of your free-will choice to have abandoned the jw religion - secure this document with a friend -a trusted friend (not the jw kind).

Anna Marina

The baptism which identifies you as one of Jehovah's Witness does not mean Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania. By their own definition, Jesus Christ was the greatest witness that Jehovah is the true God. For Jehovah's Witnesses, the term is just an alternative way of saying Christian. The actual term in Isaiah was directed to those of the House of Jacob. Not London Bethel or 900 Red Mills Road, Wallkill.

And what is God's spirit directed organisation? Do they mean Holy Spirit? Yes. But the GB are apostate to God's Holy Spirity because they are liars.

A body is made up of organs. In that way a body is organised.

(1 Corinthians 12:19-27) . . .If they were all one member, where would the body be? 20 But now they are many members, yet one body. 21 The eye cannot say to the hand: “I have no need of you”; or, again, the head [cannot say] to the feet: “I have no need of YOU.” .... 27 Now you are Christ’s body, and members individually.

So how has anyone every really been baptised into a media company with Caleb and Sophia cartoons?

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What to say to WT Publishers

by Anna Marina in

on bbc radio this morning there was a 20 minute piece on jws and the child abuse cover up.

i am already receiving reaction to it from a number of sources.

it occurred to me - if you were giving ordinary members of the public a steer on how to deal with wt publishers what would you advise?.

Anna Marina

Vanderhoven7 - yup Jesus sure did an excellent job.

Smiddy and Menrov - I've been around long enought to know that people make up their own minds on how they view God. I appreciate you don't share my view of Him.

My personal view is that God created us and He has the right to destroy us. Likely you view me a horrendously mistaken but whether you agree with me or not, we all die.

You may think Jesus was wrong. Ok, well I'll be your version of 'wrong' with Jesus and accept the consquences.

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I Got Messed Up on My Medications ... I Knew I Had to Watch the Assembly On-Line This Weekend

by RubaDub in

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friends

what a weekend.

i have my normal medications to take; one white pill, one purple pill, one blue pill, one yellow pill ... you get the idea.. but having to watch the regional assembly on-line had me stressed.

i now realized i accidentally took too many of those big purple pills.

Anna Marina

Hope you wore your id badge.

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Quit Quietly now more than ever

by gone for good in

the amazing exoneration of info sekta in swiss court has finally reinforced the proper way to exit an abusive cult.. never write a letter of disassociation.

- no need to invoke shepherding or judicial action from elders.

make a written, dated statement of your free-will choice to have abandoned the jw religion - secure this document with a friend -a trusted friend (not the jw kind).

Anna Marina

Reading the above makes me wonder about membership.

If you join a pony club, there is a common understanding about what a pony is based on the word 'pony'. You are shown pictures of ponies and told what the club is like. When you join you see one or two ponies. But for the most part it's just empty buildings.

Later you find out this is not a pony club but a front for a criminal gang.

What did you join? A pony club or a criminal gang?

That is what membership of the Watchtower is like, you are conned into joining. Likely, the person giving you the Bible study is giving it in all sincerity. Probably, they don't know the Watchtower is a front for something unchristian.

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Phone Reverse Witnessing

by Vanderhoven7 in

i think this gal is incredible.

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https://youtu.be/pbms453asdo.

Anna Marina

Helps them out during lockdown if householders approach them. Hope the call was viewed as a blessing. They don't want to cut these calls short. Keep them going. Easy way to pioneer and you get to be on at all the conventions.

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What to say to WT Publishers

by Anna Marina in

on bbc radio this morning there was a 20 minute piece on jws and the child abuse cover up.

i am already receiving reaction to it from a number of sources.

it occurred to me - if you were giving ordinary members of the public a steer on how to deal with wt publishers what would you advise?.

Anna Marina

That's returning to the Governing Body to be stripped of your freedom in return for the privilege of carrying their microphones.

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When did WT lose the spirit?

by Smiles in

at what time would you say that the watch tower schema lost the spirit?.

like the ancient nation of israel which struggled maintaining divine blessing due to a long series of grave errors that eventually culminated in definitive loss... how and when did watch tower lose the spirit?.

can we pinpoint a time or event?.

Anna Marina

In Keith Casarona's book (p290) it say that several years after James Olson's death, Leo Greenlees, the pedophile and GB member left Bethel with their blessing and there money too.

So 1975 Greenlees leaves.

Then by 1980 they are pushing Ray Franz out. But he goes without their blessing.

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What to say to WT Publishers

by Anna Marina in

on bbc radio this morning there was a 20 minute piece on jws and the child abuse cover up.

i am already receiving reaction to it from a number of sources.

it occurred to me - if you were giving ordinary members of the public a steer on how to deal with wt publishers what would you advise?.

Anna Marina

Justaguynamedmorph - If you say, "when will you return to Jehovah," you have employed their own volcabulary (which THEY understand) and challenged them on their identity in a way that is meaningful to THEM.

Sure they'll say 'we are...blah blah bla'h - but this phrase isn't often said TO them.

Being kind to them can help, after all they are being cheated and it is sad. But even those who are still in but mentally out cannot wake up those who do not want to hear. It is a kind of superstition that holds them not any real association with the teachings in the Bible/Christianity.

Vanderhoven7 - yes no doubt some just view it as telling people God's name is Jehovah. A different approach was taken with me. I was told that making God's name know was Jesus showing people what Jehovah was really like. I certainly was in a very nice congregation for a time, where there were a good number of genuine Christians.

(John 14:9) . . .Jesus said to him: “Have I been with you men so long a time, and yet, Philip, you have not come to know me? He that has seen me has seen the Father. How is it you say, ‘Show us the Father’?

Our congregation was viewed as a refuge from other congregations where the elders were harsh.

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What to say to WT Publishers

by Anna Marina in

on bbc radio this morning there was a 20 minute piece on jws and the child abuse cover up.

i am already receiving reaction to it from a number of sources.

it occurred to me - if you were giving ordinary members of the public a steer on how to deal with wt publishers what would you advise?.

Anna Marina

On BBC Radio this morning there was a 20 minute piece on JWs and the child abuse cover up. I am already receiving reaction to it from a number of sources.

It occurred to me - if you were giving ordinary members of the public a steer on how to deal with WT publishers what would you advise?

I would explain that the name Jehovah is only the English pronunciation of God's name. In Hebrew God's name is written as 4 letters and is known as the Tetragrammaton. Others, such as the Catholics pronounce the Tetragrammaton as Yahweh.

Jehovah is the name of God the Father, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. It was He who sent His Son, Jesus Christ to buy us back from sin and death.

Watchtower publisher don't serve Jesus Christ and His Father. So if you go up to them and say, "when are you going to return to Jehovah?" it might make them think because that is such a key phrase to them. On the other hand it might just annoy them. But that'd be quite funny.

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Quit Quietly now more than ever

by gone for good in

the amazing exoneration of info sekta in swiss court has finally reinforced the proper way to exit an abusive cult.. never write a letter of disassociation.

- no need to invoke shepherding or judicial action from elders.

make a written, dated statement of your free-will choice to have abandoned the jw religion - secure this document with a friend -a trusted friend (not the jw kind).

Anna Marina

There is someone who has faded BUT recently had to leave the country to escape WT.

Another thing - they are all locked up in their homes. Usually they are out standing sheepishly or arrogantly beside a trolley full of literature that no one wants. If they are not doing that they are tootling around housing estates either getting caught on householder's CCTV, or starting, what they imaginatively call, free home Bible studies. Or both.

Unable to persue their usual modus operandi, they are contacting those who have faded and I can report that locally there has been success. Someone has swallowed the bait.

A fader will have faded for a reason. But if you go back you find yourself in a radically different environment to that which you left. Now you either accept their ways or go immediately, no fade.

Also as lockdown eases, they are off out again. I am just waiting to see pictures of them, wearing face masks on electric scooters or segways with sandwich boards strapped on them. Or maybe just the magnetic trolley sign stuck on the front of their scooter. Look out for them at Halloween, you never know they might do a cracking trolley sign in pumkin orange with the phrase 'is Satan real?' written all over it.